Memories of mill town Preston

The oral historian Elizabeth Roberts carried out hundreds of interviews with the working-class inhabitants of Barrow, Lancaster and Preston, which provided the material for two books based on those interviews: ‘A Woman’s Place: An Oral History of Working-Class Women 1890-1940’ and ‘Women And Families: An Oral History, 1940-1970 (Family, Sexuality & Social Relations in Past Times)’.

Those two books represent just the tip of the iceberg of the vast archive of interviews carried out by Elizabeth Roberts and her collaborators. The interviews have been digitised by the Regional Heritage Centre at Lancaster University. Several have been put on line by the centre, and more are promised.

A recent post in the Preston History Facebook group discussed the job of scutcher in Preston’s cotton mills, one of the many now forgotten occupations that for years provided employment for thousands in the town. One of the interviews in the Elizabeth Roberts archive provides a very good description of what the job involved.

The interview was carried out in January 1979 with a man born in 1884 who worked for Horrocks Crewdson & Co (names and addresses of those interviewed are not given). In the extract below, ER is Elizabeth Roberts and R is the interviewee.


ER When you went to work halftime when you were twelve, what would you earn then?

R 2/9d a week. Of course, when you first went you had to spend so long learning the job, learning the weaving. First of all you were put on going errands. That is going from the looms to the wet place for a canful of cops for the weaver and taking the pieces of cloth that were woven to the warehouse. Taking the cans to the place where the hot water was to brew up for breakfast or midday drink or whatever and do all those errands. In any time that was left do what was necessary for actual weaving, that is piecing ends as they called it.

ER That was joining the threads, was it?

R Yes, and other jobs associated with weaving. But, of course, the main thing at the weekend or during the week, it depended on the sort of stuff you were weaving, was sweeping the looms. There was one person, locally, wrote a letter to the local paper and spoke of sweeping underneath the looms and she said you had to do it but you hadn’t it was actually illegal to sweep looms with them running. It was illegal, but it was done.

ER When were you supposed to sweep them, after work?

R On a Saturday the engine would stop probably at 12 o’clock but you had to be out by one so that time was supposed to be spent cleaning the looms but a good deal of it was done by the looms going because in some cases it was much easier to do the sweeping. For instance if you got a revolving wheel with spokes through, if you just held the brush to it, it was much easier than having to take it section by section and sweep it that way.

ER It must have been rather dangerous when they were moving?

R It was.

ER Do you remember any accidents?

R Girls had been known to be sweeping underneath the loom and they would have a sort of pigtail and have it cut off, and they were partly scalped. That has been known. I never actually seen it but I know it has been done. Anyhow this woman who wrote bewailing her useful days in the cotton mill said she had to do it. Well, you didn’t have to because at the entrance to the mill in the watch house the Factory Act was hung up in a prominent position and in that it was stated that the sweeping of looms when they were running was illegal. Of course, it not only applied to looms, it applied to other machines. I remember one man at the mill having an arm taken off through that.

ER Through going under when it was moving?

R Yes. Through cleaning machinery it was a scutcher.

ER What is a scutcher?

R A scutcher is one of the processes in the cotton trade. You get the roll of cotton and it is put in a machine that sort of breaks it up from a big almost solid mass. It has revolving cylinders with spikes on and then there is another machine that follows that up which further opens them out and further arranges the fibres in sort of parallel lines.

ER Is this the carding room?

R No, it is before carding, it’s a scutcher before it comes to carding. It is one of the steps between the bale of cotton and the actual thread.


The front page of the Elizabeth Roberts Archive website
The front page of the Elizabeth Roberts Archive website
A Preston page from the Elizabeth Roberts Archive website
A Preston page from the Elizabeth Roberts Archive website

Links
https://www.regional-heritage-centre.org/(click on the search button, insert ‘Preston’ to get to the five interviews with Preston inhabitants already online).
https://www.lancasterguardian.co.uk/retro/lost-voices-of-lancashire-life-are-to-be-heard-again-652193


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